I think maybe you ought to consider exactly why it is you don’t want to be married.
I get that you’re young and a lifetime commitment does seem pretty daunting at that age, seeing as you’ll potentially have another 50 years together, but seeing as you seem pretty committed as it is, then that shouldn’t be a problem for you.
I also get that it seems to be expected of you, and maybe you’re digging your heels in. I had a partner like that – she was an Irish catholic and she became pregnant. Her family were very much for us to be married, and we were a couple of years younger than you are right now, and to be fair I did ask her. But she refused to do what her family wanted, and so we never married, tho we were together for almost 25 years. Maybe you don’t want to be seen to conform, and that’s your issue. If that’s the case then remember you’re not doing it to please anyone other than yourselves. Marriage isn’t such a big issue these days – you haven’t mentioned your heritage but I’m guessing that you’re European by descent, and here in the UK rates of marriage have dropped by a pretty large amount over the past 25 years.
For what it’s worth, I was in a similar position to you after we split. I ended up with someone else, and after about 6 years together I thought about why I shouldn’t marry her, and I really couldn’t think of any reason. We were both a lot older by this point (early 50’s) and my partner had never had a long-term relationship, or anything longer than 3 years. I thought about how happy it would make her, and thus me as well, so I proposed to her. She was so happy, it was almost worth it for that single moment alone.
So yes, I get that there may well be reasons for your decision, but but I that if you’re honest with yourself and go over those reasons with a clear head and an open mind, then maybe you’ll either be able to change your position, or if not, then you’ll be clearer in your mind exactly as to why you don’t want to marry her, and then you’ll be in a better position to be able to explain this to your partner and your families.
To fufill his needs you need to actually listen to him. Your “help each other resolve family stuff,” is more centered on your beliefs of what you think he needs. You need to take yourself, ideas of what is right, out of the equation.
that her phone was in her co-workers house her activity-tracker was probably at her workplace.
And yes, if her phone says that her phone was in her co-workers her house, than the phone was in that house. The activity tracker I am less sure about.
Everything else is conjecture and/or assumption. Make your life easy. Be sure.
She misled you on having children. She is a manipulator. But obvi you know not to rub peoples tough childhood relationships with their parents in their faces. But you should definitely get the ring back before you end up resenting each other forever. Kids (or no kids) is something that both parents should be in ? total agreement. Do not compromise on this. This engagement is over. Count your blessings that she told you before the wedding.
I’m pretty old and I definitely know some people who swing, but I can honestly say I’ve never known a couple who had an open relationship where it lasted more than a year once it was opened. I’m sure there are tons of examples where these people in open marriages are just happily f*ing whoever they want and neither partner minds, but I don’t know any of them.
Your brain doesn’t even finish development until 25 you can’t be that mature at 19 biologically but you can still do impressive things
You should come before the daughter in a relationship. Together you raise kids. Together you support each other.
Tell him openly that he needs to lay rules down. She needs to be accountable for what she’s doing and she can pay rent.
Her dad is naturally going to want to help her by he should absolutely be standing at your side.
I think maybe you ought to consider exactly why it is you don’t want to be married.
I get that you’re young and a lifetime commitment does seem pretty daunting at that age, seeing as you’ll potentially have another 50 years together, but seeing as you seem pretty committed as it is, then that shouldn’t be a problem for you.
I also get that it seems to be expected of you, and maybe you’re digging your heels in. I had a partner like that – she was an Irish catholic and she became pregnant. Her family were very much for us to be married, and we were a couple of years younger than you are right now, and to be fair I did ask her. But she refused to do what her family wanted, and so we never married, tho we were together for almost 25 years. Maybe you don’t want to be seen to conform, and that’s your issue. If that’s the case then remember you’re not doing it to please anyone other than yourselves. Marriage isn’t such a big issue these days – you haven’t mentioned your heritage but I’m guessing that you’re European by descent, and here in the UK rates of marriage have dropped by a pretty large amount over the past 25 years.
For what it’s worth, I was in a similar position to you after we split. I ended up with someone else, and after about 6 years together I thought about why I shouldn’t marry her, and I really couldn’t think of any reason. We were both a lot older by this point (early 50’s) and my partner had never had a long-term relationship, or anything longer than 3 years. I thought about how happy it would make her, and thus me as well, so I proposed to her. She was so happy, it was almost worth it for that single moment alone.
So yes, I get that there may well be reasons for your decision, but but I that if you’re honest with yourself and go over those reasons with a clear head and an open mind, then maybe you’ll either be able to change your position, or if not, then you’ll be clearer in your mind exactly as to why you don’t want to marry her, and then you’ll be in a better position to be able to explain this to your partner and your families.
Good luck!
yeah literally I’m so excited hahahaha
To fufill his needs you need to actually listen to him. Your “help each other resolve family stuff,” is more centered on your beliefs of what you think he needs. You need to take yourself, ideas of what is right, out of the equation.
The only things you can be sure of are:
that her phone was in her co-workers house her activity-tracker was probably at her workplace.
And yes, if her phone says that her phone was in her co-workers her house, than the phone was in that house. The activity tracker I am less sure about.
Everything else is conjecture and/or assumption. Make your life easy. Be sure.
I hope it was a mistake
If he’s lying he’s cheating at least emotionally and that’s just as bad you did the right thing
You already have the answers you need, you just don’t want to see it.
What you need to do now is protect your own kids and yourself mentally, emotionally, and financially. Move some money and get a lawyer.
She misled you on having children. She is a manipulator. But obvi you know not to rub peoples tough childhood relationships with their parents in their faces. But you should definitely get the ring back before you end up resenting each other forever. Kids (or no kids) is something that both parents should be in ? total agreement. Do not compromise on this. This engagement is over. Count your blessings that she told you before the wedding.
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This isn't an uncommon feeling for a woman in a relationship. Communicate what you need and if he cannot provide that move along.
I’m pretty old and I definitely know some people who swing, but I can honestly say I’ve never known a couple who had an open relationship where it lasted more than a year once it was opened. I’m sure there are tons of examples where these people in open marriages are just happily f*ing whoever they want and neither partner minds, but I don’t know any of them.