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I am a BS, and my ex-wife of 12 years cheated on me over 40 years ago. We did not R, and I went on to marry my true love happily for 38 years.
When a spouse betrays and cheats, many perhaps 100s of decisions were made, leading to 'the cheat'. From the first casual conversation, the flirting to a kiss. The exchanging of cell phone numbers, to the hidden texting. The subsequent coffee meetings to the meeting at a hotel. And then the dirty deed. All of these decisions could have been made NOT to follow through that progression at ANY time. Saying no, I'm married or running away as you did when the chance came. I say “congratulations”, you chose correctly, even before the cell number exchange. You thought of your husband and the twins, your family, and made the choice many 'real cheaters' failed to do. Your moral character and your love for family trumped betrayal. At least, that's how I see it from your writing.
I would say that I wished my ex-wife had done this, but then I wouldn't have met and married the love of my life all those years ago
Tell or don't tell? I'll ask you this, would you want your husband to tell you that he was talking to a woman, and the conversation turned flirty and that she tried to seduce him to her room, but he ran? He saw the trouble and escaped. That's what you did. Women get hit on every day and face those same decisions. I truly see no reason for shame or guilt. Be glad that you escaped.
I thank you for this post as it answers a question that I have for cheating spouses. “Why didn't you think about your wife/husband before betraying them?” Afterward is too late! My faith is somewhat restored.
The age gap will always be an issue because he is focused on maintaining you as exactly as you are, looks wise, and molding you into whatever personality he wants by manipulating you (he says you don’t communicate well? Well based on what you’ve written here, I know that’s not true at all), what he means when he says that is that you are communicating to him in a way that makes him have to confront that you are another person with needs, thoughts, desires, etc as opposed to the doll he wants to be his accessory.
To try not to force things and to give her time to trust me more. Try to work through things with her mom during that time. She’s already talking about moving out and she’s okay with moving out to where I live and my support system is. She’s gotten to know my friends and isn’t against me not living close to her mother anymore. We plan to move out in around a year or so, as we will have enough money to do so and have a safety net in case one or our jobs go south. Well… we both already have a lot, but it’s invested, so we don’t count that. Then when that time comes, I’ll tell her it’s been a year and a half and nothing’s changed and what she wants to do because I don’t want to be around somebody that is going to constantly look down on our relationship, me, and her decisions.
Look at the other posts you've made about this relationship. If I had those problems, and harbored resentment like this, what the hell am I doing? You're very obviously not pappy, so stop clinging to the sunk cost fallacy and move on. Relationships end all the time. Learn from it and apply those lessons to a new relationship where you'll be happier.
Honestly, all kinds of things might be at play here. Your mum is acting shady, I agree. This does not mean she cheated. She might have been sexually assaulted and fallen pregnant with you as a result. You mentioned a grandparent having slightly darker skin like your own. It could be that this grandparent has a genetic secret which your mum knows about. It‘s up to you if you want to do some digging or not.
I personally know I‘m my parents‘ child, my family looks and sounds very similar. But I‘d never take a DNA test like this because you never know what secrets you might uncover. I already know of a „secret cousin“, let‘s say.
Yeah, opening the relationship “for experience before you settle down” and not because you actually want an open relationship really doesn't work – you'd be better off not in a relationship at that point. I'd end things – 6 months is literally the intro period in a long term relationship and if she's already blatantly disregarding your feelings this much, it's not getting better. You don't have the foundation that you need for counseling to even work at this point. It sounds like she'd be happier actually being in a polycule, which is fine if everyone's consenting to that, but you clearly expected this to end in monogamy and that's just not the trajectory it's on. I'd recommend you end things and, if you ultimately want monogamy, don't start any more serious relationships until you feel like you're experienced enough to pursue monogamy. She can't say no to a breakup – it's not a committee decision. Tell her you're done and when she tries to weasel out of it, hold your ground.
My thing is, no one really buys tickets and then invites. So she probably calls and says hey we are doing… interested? OP says “I'll come.” Then OP gets upset that her bf wasn't invited. When all she needed to do was say “yeah, so and so and I will come.”
Wtf, she is not a bad person for hanging out with single guys while having a boyfriend. She’s allowed to have friends.
You should not be asking someone in a relationship to have sex. That makes you a bad person.
You literally just need to ignore it. You can fantasize about her if you want I guess, but you should treat her respectfully and platonically. Respect that she is in a relationship. If you can’t do that then leave her alone.
Now at least you are somewhat following the logic but still I have to help you more. A stripper and a prostitute are not the same thing. So once again you make another false equivalency.
But to entertain your question, maybe I would. We would just have to discuss it first
I guess it does come down to that. I just wonder if I should sit down and discuss it with him first to determine the depth of it, I don’t want to come off like I’m attacking him.
Your girlfriend and s not over her ex. It’s probably nothing personal against you. She shouldn’t be with anyone. There’s no reason why she should have so many opportunities to bring him up. She sounds exhausting.
It is a good thing that his name isn’t on her birth certificate. Because if his name is on it and I leave with her and not come back, I would get kidnapping charges and would get arrested. That’s why he can’t do anything legally if his name isn’t on it. And I say “every girl needs her daddy” because I needed mine as a little girl and I don’t want her to deal with not knowing if daddy loves you or not.
That's a lot of text for phrasing issue. You don't have to leave your life story to justify something to me, I wasn't one of the users that gave the downvoted.
Reflecting on things that went wrong in a relationship is normal. Getting so hung up that you're trying to play psychologist and diagnose the ex is not. He's probably just a garden variety insecure dude who was not a good partner. They're a dime a dozen and this is a waste of your time.
I imagine she wants exactly what you're giving her.
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Further contact just encourages this guy. If you are really his friend, you'll cut him loose so he'll focus on other women.
This has already gone on too long. You allowed him to waste his time.
You've been hit on since you were 14yo. You know better.
Good for you for not falling for their bs. Continue to online your life how you see fit.
I am a BS, and my ex-wife of 12 years cheated on me over 40 years ago. We did not R, and I went on to marry my true love happily for 38 years.
When a spouse betrays and cheats, many perhaps 100s of decisions were made, leading to 'the cheat'. From the first casual conversation, the flirting to a kiss. The exchanging of cell phone numbers, to the hidden texting. The subsequent coffee meetings to the meeting at a hotel. And then the dirty deed. All of these decisions could have been made NOT to follow through that progression at ANY time. Saying no, I'm married or running away as you did when the chance came. I say “congratulations”, you chose correctly, even before the cell number exchange. You thought of your husband and the twins, your family, and made the choice many 'real cheaters' failed to do. Your moral character and your love for family trumped betrayal. At least, that's how I see it from your writing.
I would say that I wished my ex-wife had done this, but then I wouldn't have met and married the love of my life all those years ago
Tell or don't tell? I'll ask you this, would you want your husband to tell you that he was talking to a woman, and the conversation turned flirty and that she tried to seduce him to her room, but he ran? He saw the trouble and escaped. That's what you did. Women get hit on every day and face those same decisions. I truly see no reason for shame or guilt. Be glad that you escaped.
I thank you for this post as it answers a question that I have for cheating spouses. “Why didn't you think about your wife/husband before betraying them?” Afterward is too late! My faith is somewhat restored.
It looks like everyone learned a lesson that day.
Might as well have some fun with it, not everyday you get to traumatize your entire family at once.
Definitely get some cream filled pastries for dessert.
Not worth going any further
You want him to change. He’s 45. It isn’t going to happen. He’s not going to stand up to his mom either.
The age gap will always be an issue because he is focused on maintaining you as exactly as you are, looks wise, and molding you into whatever personality he wants by manipulating you (he says you don’t communicate well? Well based on what you’ve written here, I know that’s not true at all), what he means when he says that is that you are communicating to him in a way that makes him have to confront that you are another person with needs, thoughts, desires, etc as opposed to the doll he wants to be his accessory.
I should have explained more , she also hits back in those kinda lines
Thank you. Just feel used right now
To try not to force things and to give her time to trust me more. Try to work through things with her mom during that time. She’s already talking about moving out and she’s okay with moving out to where I live and my support system is. She’s gotten to know my friends and isn’t against me not living close to her mother anymore. We plan to move out in around a year or so, as we will have enough money to do so and have a safety net in case one or our jobs go south. Well… we both already have a lot, but it’s invested, so we don’t count that. Then when that time comes, I’ll tell her it’s been a year and a half and nothing’s changed and what she wants to do because I don’t want to be around somebody that is going to constantly look down on our relationship, me, and her decisions.
no company would try to have people of opposite genders in the same hotel room. she's cheating
Leave him. He broke your trust and won’t acknowledge it. Don’t marry him he’s a manipulative person and doesn’t care nor respect you
It doesn’t. Don’t waste her time or yours.
If I’m the first 5 minutes of meeting someone there’s no chemistry, don’t bother with even a second date.
Look at the other posts you've made about this relationship. If I had those problems, and harbored resentment like this, what the hell am I doing? You're very obviously not pappy, so stop clinging to the sunk cost fallacy and move on. Relationships end all the time. Learn from it and apply those lessons to a new relationship where you'll be happier.
Or don't. Whichever.
Honestly, all kinds of things might be at play here. Your mum is acting shady, I agree. This does not mean she cheated. She might have been sexually assaulted and fallen pregnant with you as a result. You mentioned a grandparent having slightly darker skin like your own. It could be that this grandparent has a genetic secret which your mum knows about. It‘s up to you if you want to do some digging or not.
I personally know I‘m my parents‘ child, my family looks and sounds very similar. But I‘d never take a DNA test like this because you never know what secrets you might uncover. I already know of a „secret cousin“, let‘s say.
Yeah, opening the relationship “for experience before you settle down” and not because you actually want an open relationship really doesn't work – you'd be better off not in a relationship at that point. I'd end things – 6 months is literally the intro period in a long term relationship and if she's already blatantly disregarding your feelings this much, it's not getting better. You don't have the foundation that you need for counseling to even work at this point. It sounds like she'd be happier actually being in a polycule, which is fine if everyone's consenting to that, but you clearly expected this to end in monogamy and that's just not the trajectory it's on. I'd recommend you end things and, if you ultimately want monogamy, don't start any more serious relationships until you feel like you're experienced enough to pursue monogamy. She can't say no to a breakup – it's not a committee decision. Tell her you're done and when she tries to weasel out of it, hold your ground.
My thing is, no one really buys tickets and then invites. So she probably calls and says hey we are doing… interested? OP says “I'll come.” Then OP gets upset that her bf wasn't invited. When all she needed to do was say “yeah, so and so and I will come.”
Wtf, she is not a bad person for hanging out with single guys while having a boyfriend. She’s allowed to have friends.
You should not be asking someone in a relationship to have sex. That makes you a bad person.
You literally just need to ignore it. You can fantasize about her if you want I guess, but you should treat her respectfully and platonically. Respect that she is in a relationship. If you can’t do that then leave her alone.
Now at least you are somewhat following the logic but still I have to help you more. A stripper and a prostitute are not the same thing. So once again you make another false equivalency.
But to entertain your question, maybe I would. We would just have to discuss it first
Best of luck, you got this!
I guess it does come down to that. I just wonder if I should sit down and discuss it with him first to determine the depth of it, I don’t want to come off like I’m attacking him.
Your girlfriend and s not over her ex. It’s probably nothing personal against you. She shouldn’t be with anyone. There’s no reason why she should have so many opportunities to bring him up. She sounds exhausting.
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Move on. He feels like you cheated. So either you cheated, or you didn’t, and either way this relationship should end.
The stuff you left there, just keep asking for it. It’s yours, and he’ll give it to you.
It is a good thing that his name isn’t on her birth certificate. Because if his name is on it and I leave with her and not come back, I would get kidnapping charges and would get arrested. That’s why he can’t do anything legally if his name isn’t on it. And I say “every girl needs her daddy” because I needed mine as a little girl and I don’t want her to deal with not knowing if daddy loves you or not.
STILL makes all their follow-up choices poor
Those kids got that opinion through their mother. Do what is best for you and let her raise her children by herself. You don’t owe them anything.
That's a lot of text for phrasing issue. You don't have to leave your life story to justify something to me, I wasn't one of the users that gave the downvoted.
Reflecting on things that went wrong in a relationship is normal. Getting so hung up that you're trying to play psychologist and diagnose the ex is not. He's probably just a garden variety insecure dude who was not a good partner. They're a dime a dozen and this is a waste of your time.
Get over yourself. You dumped him. However he heals is his problem and not yours. You sound toxic as hell.