Not too much information here but from what little you have shared about him, it surely does not look like he wants a relationship. I would not count on him changing. Do not live! life in a hold pattern.
It sounds like the girl you're talking about may be going through some personal issues that are making it difficult for her to be as social and communicative as she used to be. While it's important to be understanding and supportive, it's also important to respect her boundaries and give her the space she needs. If she has said that she isn't in the mood to talk, it might be best to give her some time and wait until she is ready to communicate before reaching out again.
He's just very immature and not ready to be anyone's husband. The best thing you can do for yourself is break up with him and let him know you want someone who is EAGER to work on the relatinship and have some honest conversations and that is not him.
Things you are attracted to are not set in stone permanent choices made for you by someone else. You can learn to appreciate different things, you can start noticing value in other things than you did before, and so on. You've already made a step in that direction since you've established that people you are attracted to often turn out to be assholes. Once you realize that, it should be easier to stop getting hots for these people.
On another note, changing yourself is sometimes a good thing to. Don't get all poetic and think of it along the lines of losing who you are. Think more about discovering who you really are. I didn't specify which of the two you should do, try to figure it out and establish who you really are and what makes you feel comfortable. If you feel like the current you is the best version of you there is and you feel great being that way, don't change it, work on changing the way you view attractiveness of other people instead.
I hope you have a prenup. Also, if you live! in the US, many states are community property states so I hope he knows that HALF of everything belongs to you BOTH equally (hello prenup, my bestie… never get married without one).
Tbh, your husband’s behavior is very telling. It shows he didn’t like that you depended on him financially and now expects you to at least earn your keep and contribute in the same way he supported you. Was it his choice that you were a SAHM, or did you decide that without his input? If you didn’t give him a choice in your decision to be a SAHM, then he is probably resentful and feels like how he’s treating you is how he perceived you to have treated him. When you were a SAHM, did you ever tell him or expected him to pay for things beyond normal household expenses, like your personal hobbies or shopping? Also, did you ever call him your sugar daddy to anyone, even in jest? It sounds like he is doing a lot of projection, and you should either consider contributing equally financially into the household, and he contributors equally into household chores, or consider meeting a lawyer and financial advisor to discuss money so future instances of financial inquiry do not cause problems (I believe a mutual agreement spelling out everything drawn up by a lawyer will help prevent issues and create expectations moving forward, hence the legal aspect of my advice).
I was the breadwinner for many years, and then I was the parent who stayed at home to finish my graduate degrees. Regardless of who was the breadwinner, never once did we delegate the other as sugar mama or sugar daddy since that belittled our contributions to the family. We do call anyone who acts entitled a “spoiled princess” (yes, even the men are called spoiled princesses if they act like one lol). We also had a legal agreement created by our lawyers (we both had our own, to protect our interests) that spelled out exactly what was expected from each other, together as a couple and/or as a family, and how future financial decisions would be considered and made (equally or individually, and whether it would fall under marital assets – individual decisions were personal property, equal decisions were marital property and must have BOTH of our names on property, including debt). It took several months of going back and forth, and a lot of laughing because our lawyers were arguing over details we didn’t care too much about, but in the end we have a solid prenup agreement that details every possible scenario (there’s random acts of nature clauses his lawyer wanted included as we lived in CA at the time lol). We both have our own financial advisors who help us maintain our finances separately, and we both contribute equally into a joint account for shared household expenses (makes it easier to pay bills and for dinners out with the family, going on vacations, etc).
This is a pattern, it's been multiple times that you know of.
You might have been able to work it out with just the first incident. The problem is he has continued to do this, and I would imagine you only know part of it. If it was a tinder meeting, I'm sure you can guess what happened. You already gave him a chance to come clean, he didn't take that chance and kept on cheating. He even signed a lease with you while cheating. He did it while you were hospitalized and in bad shape. That is some selfish stuff.
You told him he could come clean or else you wouldn't trust him. Time for you to stand by your word. He has been a serial cheater for the last 9 months, this ins't a drunken one night stand. This is calculated flings and he has been completely dishonest.
Dump him, stand by your word or you are just enabling him.
I have to concur with your thoughts here. Having waivered with identities such as queer, bisexual, pansexual, sapiosexual, lesbian, I think what matters most is the soul.
What are you taking about? She told him he couldn't private message with her, only group chat, and he still private messaged. She said he couldn't be alone with him IRL and he went for a private walk with her. Boundaries are being stomped on all over the place.
My mother was a strong minded woman and I was brought up in a way that taught me do take no shit. There's no way in hell my partner could tell me that “he's a man and he has the last word” and that “I need to be more feminine”. For me I would have laught in his face and tell him to GTFO
Nah. Just one of many millions of 40 year old men who prefer to date a woman 20years younger than him so he can manipulate and groom her into his ideal mate.
“The fish you catch is determined by the bait you use and the pond you fish in”
I’m seeing this become relevant to all ranges of successful men in my dating pool.
As a 24f I was raised hoping to find a man that would take care of me the way it was idealistically presented in media, like pretty woman, and songs like “Bills, Bills, Bills”, and that that treatment would come as a result of being sexually open and visually attractive.
What’s happening is more and more young people are seeing relationships as transactional instead of prioritizing connection. Instead of finding a man who thinks he can buy any women’s love, they need to be inspiring the kind of love that makes a man want to spoil her.
More and more, men are seeing women as objects, and women seeing men as opportunity.
We all have a strong idea of love and romance, but are thinking about it in sense of romcom characters instead of following our emotions and trying to find a true Life Partner.
Your son just needs hope that there are still genuine women out there. He may need to take a genuine look inside himself and see if he is even the kind of person that a good women should want to be with. I suspect his hopelessness is a result of low self esteem, regardless for looks there are a whole range of reasons why he could feel inadequate.
While I do believe women my age are struggling just as hard as him to find ourselves, it sounds like your son may need you to talk to him about women more.
I agree it’s off VERY putting. I may have felt the sting too if I did see they were in town and didn’t say a word. I’m not really sure what I prefer. On one hand no text means I wasn’t thought about at all on another hand a text means I was on her mind. But I’d think about the character of the bride. If they have been an ass at times then I’d not think favorably at all. If they have always been decent to me then I’d think maybe there was no intended malice in the message. You know how tone can be misinterpreted in a text. Again you know how she is as a person.
As far as Bach parties it may be have been specifically planned out and paid for in advance with people she’s much closer too currently.
It sucks I’ve been left behind in a friend group when I had young kids and lived further away. I did not reach out as much and make as much effort. I figured a message every now and then would suffice. I was wrong. But that’s okay. They didn’t have the priorities I had and were able to strengthen their friendships with each other and put in far more effort to see each other than I ever could.
That’s exactly how I feel. It kinda hurt when I got that reaction from him. It made me feel insecure, but I know I’m beautiful and I know that anyone would be lucky to have me, not in a conceited way, but I feel that I do everything I can to please him and make him happy. So why does it seem so difficult for him understand why it makes me so upset?
Right. She is probably feeling raw and exposed and out of sorts and to find her spouse tugging it to porn while she is healing when she explains her stance and he accepted it. Except only while he was getting some. Way to go buddy.
is very different to telling your partner they cant have any 'alone time' at all
So are you saying that if their partner said no to “alone time” and he agreed to it but then broke his promise that would be okay? I think we can all agree that some boundaries are ridiculous and breaking a boundary, while always a bad thing, isn't equally as bad regardless of the boundary
in the beginning he used to ask if I felt he was too clingy and I’d respond no bc I didn’t want to hurt feelings. I can’t help but feel I’m here bc I enabled it all due to not wanting to hurt him.
You are allowed to say how you feel! You can't go around suffering because you don't want to hurt his feelings. WHAT ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS? You aren't saying “you're a horrific monster and your touch repels me” – you are saying “I am not a touchy feely person and I need some space please”. YOU ARE ALLOWED!
I think this would hurt his feelings and make him retract all affection all together. Idk, I’m stuck!
If he is not able to hear this kind and honest statement without reacting that way then this is not someone who can be a good partner to you!
But leave your wife. She is extremely selfish. Here you are blaming yourself and having people around you also telling you are partly to blame, but stop.
She was able to take a break but you weren’t
She ignored your mental state, but you recognized hers
SHE CHEATED.
You were and still are in a worse mental state than her, she is a disgusting individual who has the audacity to blame you for reading her messages after her confession. She is a horrible mother who basically abandoned her children and said she didn’t want to be a “mother anymore” (your last post). She doesn’t get to pop out children and make that comment.
Stop taking blame for your wife’s selfish actions. She choose to cheat. She choose to ignore you mental state.
Get therapy for yourself and find a better support group who will help your recognize how toxic your wife is towards you.
I judged your woman out of not being knowledgeable of your girlfriends autism, best to do is communicate about how certain things make you feel, so she can understand your pov op
Wow, you really are the Charlie Brown of clueless wonders aren’t you? You really don’t deserve your girlfriend and you should be ashamed of yourself for what you allow this church bitch to carry on with you like that. She should be ashamed of herself too. What a snake. You are a dirtbag boyfriend. I wish Sarah had a handsome male friend to treat you to the same treatment you show her. Do her a favor, and end things so that Theresa can get stuck with the likes of you, and Sarah can find herself a man who actually has enough respect for her and the relationship than to allow some bimbo on the side to carry on like that, who is man enough to shut that down and not sneak off on trips with the same bimbo, because clearly you are not this man.
I would have dumped her. You should too.
Not too much information here but from what little you have shared about him, it surely does not look like he wants a relationship. I would not count on him changing. Do not live! life in a hold pattern.
Should I go to HR and inform them about my boss trying to pull off shit like that?
Hey, I finally had break up. She was unhappy for stupid stuff and I accelerated it
Why are you still with him?!
It sounds like the girl you're talking about may be going through some personal issues that are making it difficult for her to be as social and communicative as she used to be. While it's important to be understanding and supportive, it's also important to respect her boundaries and give her the space she needs. If she has said that she isn't in the mood to talk, it might be best to give her some time and wait until she is ready to communicate before reaching out again.
He's just very immature and not ready to be anyone's husband. The best thing you can do for yourself is break up with him and let him know you want someone who is EAGER to work on the relatinship and have some honest conversations and that is not him.
Well just tell her exactly that, what you just wrote ?
Things you are attracted to are not set in stone permanent choices made for you by someone else. You can learn to appreciate different things, you can start noticing value in other things than you did before, and so on. You've already made a step in that direction since you've established that people you are attracted to often turn out to be assholes. Once you realize that, it should be easier to stop getting hots for these people.
On another note, changing yourself is sometimes a good thing to. Don't get all poetic and think of it along the lines of losing who you are. Think more about discovering who you really are. I didn't specify which of the two you should do, try to figure it out and establish who you really are and what makes you feel comfortable. If you feel like the current you is the best version of you there is and you feel great being that way, don't change it, work on changing the way you view attractiveness of other people instead.
I hope you have a prenup. Also, if you live! in the US, many states are community property states so I hope he knows that HALF of everything belongs to you BOTH equally (hello prenup, my bestie… never get married without one).
Tbh, your husband’s behavior is very telling. It shows he didn’t like that you depended on him financially and now expects you to at least earn your keep and contribute in the same way he supported you. Was it his choice that you were a SAHM, or did you decide that without his input? If you didn’t give him a choice in your decision to be a SAHM, then he is probably resentful and feels like how he’s treating you is how he perceived you to have treated him. When you were a SAHM, did you ever tell him or expected him to pay for things beyond normal household expenses, like your personal hobbies or shopping? Also, did you ever call him your sugar daddy to anyone, even in jest? It sounds like he is doing a lot of projection, and you should either consider contributing equally financially into the household, and he contributors equally into household chores, or consider meeting a lawyer and financial advisor to discuss money so future instances of financial inquiry do not cause problems (I believe a mutual agreement spelling out everything drawn up by a lawyer will help prevent issues and create expectations moving forward, hence the legal aspect of my advice).
I was the breadwinner for many years, and then I was the parent who stayed at home to finish my graduate degrees. Regardless of who was the breadwinner, never once did we delegate the other as sugar mama or sugar daddy since that belittled our contributions to the family. We do call anyone who acts entitled a “spoiled princess” (yes, even the men are called spoiled princesses if they act like one lol). We also had a legal agreement created by our lawyers (we both had our own, to protect our interests) that spelled out exactly what was expected from each other, together as a couple and/or as a family, and how future financial decisions would be considered and made (equally or individually, and whether it would fall under marital assets – individual decisions were personal property, equal decisions were marital property and must have BOTH of our names on property, including debt). It took several months of going back and forth, and a lot of laughing because our lawyers were arguing over details we didn’t care too much about, but in the end we have a solid prenup agreement that details every possible scenario (there’s random acts of nature clauses his lawyer wanted included as we lived in CA at the time lol). We both have our own financial advisors who help us maintain our finances separately, and we both contribute equally into a joint account for shared household expenses (makes it easier to pay bills and for dinners out with the family, going on vacations, etc).
This is a pattern, it's been multiple times that you know of.
You might have been able to work it out with just the first incident. The problem is he has continued to do this, and I would imagine you only know part of it. If it was a tinder meeting, I'm sure you can guess what happened. You already gave him a chance to come clean, he didn't take that chance and kept on cheating. He even signed a lease with you while cheating. He did it while you were hospitalized and in bad shape. That is some selfish stuff.
You told him he could come clean or else you wouldn't trust him. Time for you to stand by your word. He has been a serial cheater for the last 9 months, this ins't a drunken one night stand. This is calculated flings and he has been completely dishonest.
Dump him, stand by your word or you are just enabling him.
Why did you even ask for an opinion? Your comments clearly show that you want to try again despite what a terrible idea it would be.
I have to concur with your thoughts here. Having waivered with identities such as queer, bisexual, pansexual, sapiosexual, lesbian, I think what matters most is the soul.
Ues, but she's still hanging out with the guy. It's not like he's in the past; he's very much in their present.
What are you taking about? She told him he couldn't private message with her, only group chat, and he still private messaged. She said he couldn't be alone with him IRL and he went for a private walk with her. Boundaries are being stomped on all over the place.
OP- was she attractive IRL?
My mother was a strong minded woman and I was brought up in a way that taught me do take no shit. There's no way in hell my partner could tell me that “he's a man and he has the last word” and that “I need to be more feminine”. For me I would have laught in his face and tell him to GTFO
Hon… google 'bro code'. You're a side piece
Nah. Just one of many millions of 40 year old men who prefer to date a woman 20years younger than him so he can manipulate and groom her into his ideal mate.
“The fish you catch is determined by the bait you use and the pond you fish in”
I’m seeing this become relevant to all ranges of successful men in my dating pool.
As a 24f I was raised hoping to find a man that would take care of me the way it was idealistically presented in media, like pretty woman, and songs like “Bills, Bills, Bills”, and that that treatment would come as a result of being sexually open and visually attractive.
What’s happening is more and more young people are seeing relationships as transactional instead of prioritizing connection. Instead of finding a man who thinks he can buy any women’s love, they need to be inspiring the kind of love that makes a man want to spoil her.
More and more, men are seeing women as objects, and women seeing men as opportunity.
We all have a strong idea of love and romance, but are thinking about it in sense of romcom characters instead of following our emotions and trying to find a true Life Partner.
Your son just needs hope that there are still genuine women out there. He may need to take a genuine look inside himself and see if he is even the kind of person that a good women should want to be with. I suspect his hopelessness is a result of low self esteem, regardless for looks there are a whole range of reasons why he could feel inadequate.
While I do believe women my age are struggling just as hard as him to find ourselves, it sounds like your son may need you to talk to him about women more.
I agree it’s off VERY putting. I may have felt the sting too if I did see they were in town and didn’t say a word. I’m not really sure what I prefer. On one hand no text means I wasn’t thought about at all on another hand a text means I was on her mind. But I’d think about the character of the bride. If they have been an ass at times then I’d not think favorably at all. If they have always been decent to me then I’d think maybe there was no intended malice in the message. You know how tone can be misinterpreted in a text. Again you know how she is as a person.
As far as Bach parties it may be have been specifically planned out and paid for in advance with people she’s much closer too currently.
It sucks I’ve been left behind in a friend group when I had young kids and lived further away. I did not reach out as much and make as much effort. I figured a message every now and then would suffice. I was wrong. But that’s okay. They didn’t have the priorities I had and were able to strengthen their friendships with each other and put in far more effort to see each other than I ever could.
That’s exactly how I feel. It kinda hurt when I got that reaction from him. It made me feel insecure, but I know I’m beautiful and I know that anyone would be lucky to have me, not in a conceited way, but I feel that I do everything I can to please him and make him happy. So why does it seem so difficult for him understand why it makes me so upset?
Right. She is probably feeling raw and exposed and out of sorts and to find her spouse tugging it to porn while she is healing when she explains her stance and he accepted it. Except only while he was getting some. Way to go buddy.
I do understand that, we just spoke about it all before being together and she said she was fine with the situation
is very different to telling your partner they cant have any 'alone time' at all
So are you saying that if their partner said no to “alone time” and he agreed to it but then broke his promise that would be okay? I think we can all agree that some boundaries are ridiculous and breaking a boundary, while always a bad thing, isn't equally as bad regardless of the boundary
in the beginning he used to ask if I felt he was too clingy and I’d respond no bc I didn’t want to hurt feelings. I can’t help but feel I’m here bc I enabled it all due to not wanting to hurt him.
You are allowed to say how you feel! You can't go around suffering because you don't want to hurt his feelings. WHAT ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS? You aren't saying “you're a horrific monster and your touch repels me” – you are saying “I am not a touchy feely person and I need some space please”. YOU ARE ALLOWED!
I think this would hurt his feelings and make him retract all affection all together. Idk, I’m stuck!
If he is not able to hear this kind and honest statement without reacting that way then this is not someone who can be a good partner to you!
If there is any chance it is not yours, take a DNA test of the kid after labor.
I assume she has no car because of the car accidents. If he wants to help her he should allow her to use his car.
So I may get killed for this…
But leave your wife. She is extremely selfish. Here you are blaming yourself and having people around you also telling you are partly to blame, but stop.
She was able to take a break but you weren’t
She ignored your mental state, but you recognized hers
SHE CHEATED.
You were and still are in a worse mental state than her, she is a disgusting individual who has the audacity to blame you for reading her messages after her confession. She is a horrible mother who basically abandoned her children and said she didn’t want to be a “mother anymore” (your last post). She doesn’t get to pop out children and make that comment.
Stop taking blame for your wife’s selfish actions. She choose to cheat. She choose to ignore you mental state.
Get therapy for yourself and find a better support group who will help your recognize how toxic your wife is towards you.
I judged your woman out of not being knowledgeable of your girlfriends autism, best to do is communicate about how certain things make you feel, so she can understand your pov op
You break up and find a partner who will be happy to marry you.
Wow, you really are the Charlie Brown of clueless wonders aren’t you? You really don’t deserve your girlfriend and you should be ashamed of yourself for what you allow this church bitch to carry on with you like that. She should be ashamed of herself too. What a snake. You are a dirtbag boyfriend. I wish Sarah had a handsome male friend to treat you to the same treatment you show her. Do her a favor, and end things so that Theresa can get stuck with the likes of you, and Sarah can find herself a man who actually has enough respect for her and the relationship than to allow some bimbo on the side to carry on like that, who is man enough to shut that down and not sneak off on trips with the same bimbo, because clearly you are not this man.
This is pretty common. Good for you that you lived a luxury others have to deal with all the time.
I'm automatically thinking about her uncle.
Ahh, you wanna hit that, huh?
Or 8-9 days on top of another 8-9 days of PMS, which in total kinda ruins half of your life for you…
He’s abusive. You are in danger. He is threatening to harm you and taking risks on your safety
That’s rough buddy