But if it were you or someone you loved. Would you want them to take that risk?
The unfortunate truth is that people that knowingly abuse others have an incredibly low rehabilitation rate. It isn't impossible by any means. But it is unlikely. Knowingly and intentionally inflicting harm is a symptom of disturbed thought processes and abnormal emotional regulation. Without intense and willing therapy and professionally placed boundaries, coping strategies 5 other treatments as prescribed, these disturbances don't just go away or get better independently. You can't solve the behavior without solving the problem behind the behavior.
The chance of successful change diminishes more when the perpetrator of the abuse has committed repeated instances of abuse.
And the chance of successful behavioral change lowers even more drastically when the incident or incidents invovle any form of weapon, choking or damage done to a person's head or vital organs. Violence of this magnitude is a clear escalation of disturbed behavior and significantly increases the chance of the victim being killed, maimed or disabled as a result of the abuse.
An indicator of a person that has legitimately been making concentrated progress in changing abusive behavior is that the person has taken full responsibility for the behavior they displayed without excusing their actions or trying to explain away why they behaved as they did. In the specific example of this post the boyfriend does tell his friends it occurred, however he downplays the actions he took (I just slapped her and sometimes hit her a lot) notice that he admits to the slaps, but chooses to define his other violent actions as “hitting”. This is rather vague and downplays the seriousness of the violence he committed. Toddlers hit each other. Adults punch, grab, shove, kick, etc. A slap sounds less severe than saying you punched a person. He owns up to the slap but not the other behavior. Notice that he follows this statement up with “but I was in a dark place at the time and I've changed now.” This statement doesn't take responsibility for his actions. This attempts to excuse his behavior by stating that he was not doing well and that made him react with violence. Had he been doing well, he would not have chosen violence. This leads to a big question: if he falls into another dark place would he turn to violence again? What did he do to address this dark place and his violent reaction while in a dark place? How does he know or prove this behavior would not happen again?
When it comes to relationships with people who have a history of abuse or violent behavior, you have to determine what level of risk you are personally comfortable taking. That may mean never dating anyone with this history. That may mean assessing it on a case by case basis. Both options are valid. Should anyone decide to assess on a case by case basis they need to determine if the person has been honest, upfront, and taken full responsibility without excuses. They need to determine what preventative steps have been taken and what steps were taken to address and work on the behavior. If no steps have been taken, there is dishonesty, a lack of accountability or a combination of all, then it is not likely to be a safe relationship.
Just asked my partner about this ( he’s a photographer ) and he said yeah…definitely weird. He said it would’ve made sense for a female photographer to take these but not a friend.
I do think however your wife probably just didn’t think about it because she didn’t see your friend as any threat or like was just comfortable enough with him because she already knew him and that’s probably why she didn’t have any issue with it but .. yea i would still be pissed.
talk about a fist mammogram!
Oh holy crap you are so smart! I bet you’re right. Incredibly shady.
People can and do change.
But if it were you or someone you loved. Would you want them to take that risk?
The unfortunate truth is that people that knowingly abuse others have an incredibly low rehabilitation rate. It isn't impossible by any means. But it is unlikely. Knowingly and intentionally inflicting harm is a symptom of disturbed thought processes and abnormal emotional regulation. Without intense and willing therapy and professionally placed boundaries, coping strategies 5 other treatments as prescribed, these disturbances don't just go away or get better independently. You can't solve the behavior without solving the problem behind the behavior.
The chance of successful change diminishes more when the perpetrator of the abuse has committed repeated instances of abuse.
And the chance of successful behavioral change lowers even more drastically when the incident or incidents invovle any form of weapon, choking or damage done to a person's head or vital organs. Violence of this magnitude is a clear escalation of disturbed behavior and significantly increases the chance of the victim being killed, maimed or disabled as a result of the abuse.
An indicator of a person that has legitimately been making concentrated progress in changing abusive behavior is that the person has taken full responsibility for the behavior they displayed without excusing their actions or trying to explain away why they behaved as they did. In the specific example of this post the boyfriend does tell his friends it occurred, however he downplays the actions he took (I just slapped her and sometimes hit her a lot) notice that he admits to the slaps, but chooses to define his other violent actions as “hitting”. This is rather vague and downplays the seriousness of the violence he committed. Toddlers hit each other. Adults punch, grab, shove, kick, etc. A slap sounds less severe than saying you punched a person. He owns up to the slap but not the other behavior. Notice that he follows this statement up with “but I was in a dark place at the time and I've changed now.” This statement doesn't take responsibility for his actions. This attempts to excuse his behavior by stating that he was not doing well and that made him react with violence. Had he been doing well, he would not have chosen violence. This leads to a big question: if he falls into another dark place would he turn to violence again? What did he do to address this dark place and his violent reaction while in a dark place? How does he know or prove this behavior would not happen again?
When it comes to relationships with people who have a history of abuse or violent behavior, you have to determine what level of risk you are personally comfortable taking. That may mean never dating anyone with this history. That may mean assessing it on a case by case basis. Both options are valid. Should anyone decide to assess on a case by case basis they need to determine if the person has been honest, upfront, and taken full responsibility without excuses. They need to determine what preventative steps have been taken and what steps were taken to address and work on the behavior. If no steps have been taken, there is dishonesty, a lack of accountability or a combination of all, then it is not likely to be a safe relationship.
Why bother making comments? Just break up with her lmao
Do that do that. You will likely never find someone like that ever again
Just asked my partner about this ( he’s a photographer ) and he said yeah…definitely weird. He said it would’ve made sense for a female photographer to take these but not a friend.
I do think however your wife probably just didn’t think about it because she didn’t see your friend as any threat or like was just comfortable enough with him because she already knew him and that’s probably why she didn’t have any issue with it but .. yea i would still be pissed.