OP, I think you're focusing on his parents enabling him rather than focusing on whether you should stay with a person that treats you badly. Sure, his in-laws enable him, and no, they're not going to change. But even if they did, what makes you think that your husband would listen to anything they said and try to change his behavior? I'm sure you've asked your husband to change, and you're his chosen spouse. Wouldn't your requests have as much weight as theirs? The truth is, your husband might change if his parents started holding him accountable (which isn't going to happen, as you, me, and your therapist agree) but he probably wouldn't. What then? Then you'd have to figure out whether this relationship is worth remaining in, just like you have to do anyway.
Notice how she’s gone for the smallest amount of truth. • sex for only one minute – because she can’t deny it happened • doesn’t remember anything – so you can’t blame her for cheating and she can blame intoxication • wasn’t assault (so you won’t tell her to press charges) • the other friend just left 30 minutes before (why didn’t the bff leave with him???)- so you won’t think anything happened overnight • coherent enough you at 8 to check when you’re coming home but not enough to not cheat???
You definitely need to contact the guy and the best friend. Find out if this was really the first and only time and if the bff was there at all, when he left and why his bff didn’t leave with him. Check her phone (show up unannounced and ask to check it. Maybe even text the bff from her phone
When I asked him, he mentioned that she is an ex and how they are friends and I would have accepted that response if he didn't start getting defensive and attacking me for feeling insecure about his intentions with me.
It’s surprising how many are tip toeing around this being a sexual assault, including OP. If the story was about a sleeping wife in the park having her lady parts rubbed through her panties every single person would be saying sexual assault.
OP, you need to start documenting/recording this and reporting her. The last thing you want is for her to turn the tables on you and accuse *you of starting shit once she starts to get your rejection.
Report her to the school, too. This creates a paper trail before things get out of hand.
M8 you can't fix a person if they don't want to get fixed. Stop wasting time, she most likely is only woth you because you are a safe bet. Anyway, good luck
Does your fiance have any redeeming qualities? Because holy fuck. You sure did pick a winner. ?
Your fiance has clearly suffered from probably a lot of manipulation from her father. But she's 35 now and should be in therapy to deal with that instead of romanticizing her sisters pain. idk if romanticizing is the right word. She's like weirdly wishing she shared their trauma and relishing in the attention it gives her to act broken.
You should probably rethink marrying this girl if she refuses to go to therapy because BIG YIKES BATMAN.
The thing is, in rare occasions, when people actively want to change, do a lot of personal effort to change, and a lot of acknowledgement of what they did wrong and a lot of reparative actions, some people do change.
But for people to truly change, they absolutely need to acknowledge that what they did was wrong, understand why it was wrong, and have a plan in action (not in words, in real, tangible actions) to never do again what they were doing. Your boyfriend hid from you his violent past. If he was truly sorry, he would have told you, he would have explain all the work he did to change himself, he would accept consequences for his past actions, including the possibility that you didn't believe that he changed and left him… but the fact that he didn't tell you, is a clear indicator that he did not, in fact, change, it only means that he got better at hiding his violent self and that it will emerge at some point. Often abusers wait until they feel you're trapped in the relationship, to show their violence.
“I felt I wasn't safe to go home, so instead I stayed at an unsafe guy's house. A guy who has repeatedly flirted with me, and whom I covered for to you. A man who has repeatedly caressed my neck. And I totally stayed in his bed, instead of a couch, but it is okay because nothing happened. Alright well, he told you that one time I groped him.”
Come on man, you can't be this fucking naive, can you?
OP, I think you're focusing on his parents enabling him rather than focusing on whether you should stay with a person that treats you badly. Sure, his in-laws enable him, and no, they're not going to change. But even if they did, what makes you think that your husband would listen to anything they said and try to change his behavior? I'm sure you've asked your husband to change, and you're his chosen spouse. Wouldn't your requests have as much weight as theirs? The truth is, your husband might change if his parents started holding him accountable (which isn't going to happen, as you, me, and your therapist agree) but he probably wouldn't. What then? Then you'd have to figure out whether this relationship is worth remaining in, just like you have to do anyway.
Nahh man if that was me I would've broken up with her then and there.
Doesn't matter if she did or didn't.
How do you find yourself in another mans house after the bar?
You shouldn’t go back. The red flags are much ???
Notice how she’s gone for the smallest amount of truth. • sex for only one minute – because she can’t deny it happened • doesn’t remember anything – so you can’t blame her for cheating and she can blame intoxication • wasn’t assault (so you won’t tell her to press charges) • the other friend just left 30 minutes before (why didn’t the bff leave with him???)- so you won’t think anything happened overnight • coherent enough you at 8 to check when you’re coming home but not enough to not cheat???
You definitely need to contact the guy and the best friend. Find out if this was really the first and only time and if the bff was there at all, when he left and why his bff didn’t leave with him. Check her phone (show up unannounced and ask to check it. Maybe even text the bff from her phone
When I asked him, he mentioned that she is an ex and how they are friends and I would have accepted that response if he didn't start getting defensive and attacking me for feeling insecure about his intentions with me.
It’s surprising how many are tip toeing around this being a sexual assault, including OP. If the story was about a sleeping wife in the park having her lady parts rubbed through her panties every single person would be saying sexual assault.
OP, you need to start documenting/recording this and reporting her. The last thing you want is for her to turn the tables on you and accuse *you of starting shit once she starts to get your rejection.
Report her to the school, too. This creates a paper trail before things get out of hand.
M8 you can't fix a person if they don't want to get fixed. Stop wasting time, she most likely is only woth you because you are a safe bet. Anyway, good luck
Does your fiance have any redeeming qualities? Because holy fuck. You sure did pick a winner. ?
Your fiance has clearly suffered from probably a lot of manipulation from her father. But she's 35 now and should be in therapy to deal with that instead of romanticizing her sisters pain. idk if romanticizing is the right word. She's like weirdly wishing she shared their trauma and relishing in the attention it gives her to act broken.
You should probably rethink marrying this girl if she refuses to go to therapy because BIG YIKES BATMAN.
The thing is, in rare occasions, when people actively want to change, do a lot of personal effort to change, and a lot of acknowledgement of what they did wrong and a lot of reparative actions, some people do change.
But for people to truly change, they absolutely need to acknowledge that what they did was wrong, understand why it was wrong, and have a plan in action (not in words, in real, tangible actions) to never do again what they were doing. Your boyfriend hid from you his violent past. If he was truly sorry, he would have told you, he would have explain all the work he did to change himself, he would accept consequences for his past actions, including the possibility that you didn't believe that he changed and left him… but the fact that he didn't tell you, is a clear indicator that he did not, in fact, change, it only means that he got better at hiding his violent self and that it will emerge at some point. Often abusers wait until they feel you're trapped in the relationship, to show their violence.
People still call other people Hoe’s!? It’s 2023, stop letting the Mormons dictate your happiness!
“I felt I wasn't safe to go home, so instead I stayed at an unsafe guy's house. A guy who has repeatedly flirted with me, and whom I covered for to you. A man who has repeatedly caressed my neck. And I totally stayed in his bed, instead of a couch, but it is okay because nothing happened. Alright well, he told you that one time I groped him.”
Come on man, you can't be this fucking naive, can you?
The gist I got is OP started having kids at 18, now has two at 24 y/o and married this kid when he was 20. Big yikes all around.