'Push your agenda on him'?. Why is he treating you like an enemy?. Being married, a couple must trust each other with their phones. Once married, you can no longer say 'privacy' on your phones, that has to be open. No matter how embarassing the stuff that you have googled or probably some porns, you have to respect you spouse enough to not keep any secrets. Privacy could be if for any work related texts or calls, now that would be understandable. Anything else, no such thing. I'd be very wary why he does not let you snoop in his phone. Probably he knows there's enough in there to make you up and leave him for good. Talk to.him.about open phone policy or you are reconsidering the relationship.
Two grieving people took comfort in each others arms…. that doesnt make u bad people, that doesnt make u a monster. Talk to her about it… communication will help this situation, on both sides. People grieve in different ways, you saw your wife in her sister… she saw comfort and familiarity in you. Ther id nothing wrong with either of those things. Im sorry for your loss of your wife, know itll be nude but u will get through it. You love her family and thats a good thing.
Your bf needs to grow up, imo. You haven't done anything wrong. This is his own hang-up to deal with; he shouldn't be taking his discomfort about it out on you in any way, and I don't think there's anything you can do to help him resolve his feelings on this. If I were in your position, when he brought it up, I would tell him to decide if this is something he can get over or not, but I don't want to hear about a meaningless ONS from two years ago again.
Q: How many innocent people died from the nuke dropped on Japan?
It is estimated that the majority of the casualties resulting from the nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were civilians, many of whom were innocent and had no involvement in the war effort. The exact number of innocent people who died as a result of the bombings is difficult to determine, but it is generally accepted that a significant portion of the estimated 140,000 deaths (including those who died later from radiation sickness and other injuries) were non-combatants. The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki have been the subject of much debate and controversy, with some arguing that the use of nuclear weapons was justified given the circumstances of the war, and others condemning the bombings as unnecessary and a war crime. Regardless of one's position on the issue, it is clear that the bombings had a devastating impact on the people of Japan, and caused immense suffering and loss of life
Given the advancement of weapons of mass destruction since ww2… I'd say anyone who drops a 'nuke' to end a conflict, will be mutually assured destruction.
I know this is just a hypothetical conversation, but if I discovered that POV… I'd be questioning what other absurd moral beliefs she has…
Hi OP. I don't think you should be as criticized since it's obvious that your heart is in the right place and you're just honestly trying to help, and seeking advice.
This isn't the comment on whether it's right or wrong for him to double down on his pride, or offer advice to either of you, but for perspective – this is a common foundational story/situation for very successful, Champion-level athletes across probably all martial arts. Whether MMA, Boxing in Mexico, Muay Thai in Thailand, Lethwei in Myanmar, etc. some of the most successful athletes are rags to riches stories. Not saying this is exactly that but being prove, experience lack, poverty can be incredibly motivation, through his training, transitioning going pro, winning fights.
He may subconsciously or consciously know he can relax a bit with say an extra $500 that can alleviate financial pressure, which could make the difference between an win or loss. MMA commonly pays double for a win.
Not sure this helps, but could make a little more sense of things in this current phase.
Sounds like she’s the exact opposite of a feminist if she believes that women stay at home looking after the kids and cleaning. Feminism is just equality between the sexes not being an awful human being
It's honestly more about time, and a question of helping each other out.
You shouldn't have to contribute more to the household just because you make less if you're working the same amount of time.
It's also quite dependent on when each of you work and have free time.
If he has free time while you work, he should do the house chores. And vice versa of cause. If both of you are working the same day, both of you contribute to the house chores.
Op, trust me, it’s clear as day she jealous, she wants your BF, she wants to get rid of you.
Also she’s not your “bestie”.
A BFF doesn’t avoid you, a frenemy does who secretly hates you to your face.
She’s playing dumb, she’s manipulating everything on purpose, and she’s has some narcissistic tendencies hence all the drama is about her and not enough attention from men.
This is what Narcissistic women do in their youth and unless you cut her off, she’s going to eventually steam roll you by gaslighting you, cause you to break up with your boyfriend, and then seduce him the same night.
Trust me, I knew a few women like this, one in particular, she eventually got arrested & sent to prison for embezzling $40k from a job but she had a flair for the dramatics when men weren’t paying attention to her, include guys I was friends with she knew and it’s why she tried to get me fired all because I got along with everyone at the job and had freshly gotten out of a two year relationship.
Just because he was unhappy doesn't mean you did something wrong or you need to blame yourself because of it.
Often negative feelings fester during the relationship and become resentment without either party knowing or understanding why.
He did well for himself and he is moving on, you should too.
Take sometime to heal, finish your school and later, when the negative feelings are dealt with, reflect on the relationship in a healthy way, see what both of you did wrong and where you can do better for yourself and for your next relationship.
My thoughts are that he went out that night in hopes of finding other girls to make out with so that you two are now “equal”. I don’t think it was by accident,
You cheating first is what caused this whole thing, so I don’t think you should be upset at the outcome.
you two ended things and then got back together, this was never going to work out and be the same as it was before. There will always be the thought in both of your minds of what happened and it won’t go away. This is what leads to a toxic relationship.
My advice, you two are no longer a good match for each other as you have both cheated and made the other person feel awful, in your case you should have seen it coming (from your bf) and you did and you still felt awful about it.
Things won’t be the same after this, no matter how much you try and forget, it will be apart of your relationship. if you continue to date. I wish you the best of luck
Your husband responded almost perfectly, the savage cultural beliefs have no place in civilized society.
….. maybe your husband could have just broken his nose, his wrist/fingers or something smaller but overall she behaved like an ideal husband. What culture is your husband from?
Basically, this is a clash of civilizations, the moral western world, and the savage primitive world
Lady. We are trying to get you to realize you need therapy. Seriously. You call your ex husband your husband. You shamed him when he was most likely raped (confirmed from your comments!) causing him a shit ton of guilt and trauma.
Then you went nuclear and asked for a divorce when you HAVE A CHILD TOGETHER.
Then you manipulated another man. Or found a stinker honestly I don’t believe a thing in your post. To me it sounds like you came here for validation and are only listening to what you want. That’s called cherry-picking and isn’t the full story.
THEN you start feeling bad FOR YOURSELF because you JUST NOW realized your EXhusband could have been rap**.
You are awful and need therapy, really this isn’t good or normal and is down right sad.
Be as mad as you want, you have to live with yourself.
So, she cries to shut you down, says she thinks you'll leave, but isn't willing to compromise a bit more. So, she values having things exactly the way she likes them over keeping you happy and invested in the relationship. Now, she's not obligated to do sexual things with you, and you can't make her. And, honestly, I wouldn't want someone doing things with me that they were doing out of a sense of obligation and not being into it. But I think she's pretty much just told you it's not going to happen.
Take it from a 44 year old man who has been down this road: It is highly unlikely that she is going to one day change her mind. Which means you either have to accept it and deal with the building resentment, or find someone else who you are more sexually compatible with.
But if I were 2 years into a relationship, and my partner didn't like me enough to want to spend time together outside of a formal date setting, I would be questioning the sustainability of the relationship.
Marriage is 95% just hanging out with the person. It's not a good sign that she either is not comfortable or doesn't enjoy doing that with you.
It certainly sounds like it was very sweet. Knowing that you both discussed and agreed on the future of your relationship really only leads me to one other possible explanation being that whatever emergency she and her roommate have/had is absorbing most of her time, feelings, and thoughts right now. It seriously sucks that you don’t have an answer to the sudden change in her attitude toward the relationship.
You don't change the kids name when their dad is in their life. That only makes sense when the dad was never in their life and your new husband wants to adopt them.
I understand that she doesn't want a different name than her kid but this isn't the way.
Alright thank you. I was just trying to feel out how she thinks of me after I dropped the ball but I guess I gotta ask her to find out.
'Push your agenda on him'?. Why is he treating you like an enemy?. Being married, a couple must trust each other with their phones. Once married, you can no longer say 'privacy' on your phones, that has to be open. No matter how embarassing the stuff that you have googled or probably some porns, you have to respect you spouse enough to not keep any secrets. Privacy could be if for any work related texts or calls, now that would be understandable. Anything else, no such thing. I'd be very wary why he does not let you snoop in his phone. Probably he knows there's enough in there to make you up and leave him for good. Talk to.him.about open phone policy or you are reconsidering the relationship.
Two grieving people took comfort in each others arms…. that doesnt make u bad people, that doesnt make u a monster. Talk to her about it… communication will help this situation, on both sides. People grieve in different ways, you saw your wife in her sister… she saw comfort and familiarity in you. Ther id nothing wrong with either of those things. Im sorry for your loss of your wife, know itll be nude but u will get through it. You love her family and thats a good thing.
Your bf needs to grow up, imo. You haven't done anything wrong. This is his own hang-up to deal with; he shouldn't be taking his discomfort about it out on you in any way, and I don't think there's anything you can do to help him resolve his feelings on this. If I were in your position, when he brought it up, I would tell him to decide if this is something he can get over or not, but I don't want to hear about a meaningless ONS from two years ago again.
Just ripped this from chatGPT:
Q: How many innocent people died from the nuke dropped on Japan?
It is estimated that the majority of the casualties resulting from the nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were civilians, many of whom were innocent and had no involvement in the war effort. The exact number of innocent people who died as a result of the bombings is difficult to determine, but it is generally accepted that a significant portion of the estimated 140,000 deaths (including those who died later from radiation sickness and other injuries) were non-combatants. The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki have been the subject of much debate and controversy, with some arguing that the use of nuclear weapons was justified given the circumstances of the war, and others condemning the bombings as unnecessary and a war crime. Regardless of one's position on the issue, it is clear that the bombings had a devastating impact on the people of Japan, and caused immense suffering and loss of life
Given the advancement of weapons of mass destruction since ww2… I'd say anyone who drops a 'nuke' to end a conflict, will be mutually assured destruction.
I know this is just a hypothetical conversation, but if I discovered that POV… I'd be questioning what other absurd moral beliefs she has…
He’s not in love with you.
He’s just playing out a kink and saying whatever he needs to say to get you to do what he wants.
Think of him as your pimp rather than a bf.
Does he still sound like a great catch?
Leave. You owe it to yourself to find someone better.
Hi OP. I don't think you should be as criticized since it's obvious that your heart is in the right place and you're just honestly trying to help, and seeking advice.
This isn't the comment on whether it's right or wrong for him to double down on his pride, or offer advice to either of you, but for perspective – this is a common foundational story/situation for very successful, Champion-level athletes across probably all martial arts. Whether MMA, Boxing in Mexico, Muay Thai in Thailand, Lethwei in Myanmar, etc. some of the most successful athletes are rags to riches stories. Not saying this is exactly that but being prove, experience lack, poverty can be incredibly motivation, through his training, transitioning going pro, winning fights.
He may subconsciously or consciously know he can relax a bit with say an extra $500 that can alleviate financial pressure, which could make the difference between an win or loss. MMA commonly pays double for a win.
Not sure this helps, but could make a little more sense of things in this current phase.
Sounds like she’s the exact opposite of a feminist if she believes that women stay at home looking after the kids and cleaning. Feminism is just equality between the sexes not being an awful human being
It's honestly more about time, and a question of helping each other out.
You shouldn't have to contribute more to the household just because you make less if you're working the same amount of time.
It's also quite dependent on when each of you work and have free time.
If he has free time while you work, he should do the house chores. And vice versa of cause. If both of you are working the same day, both of you contribute to the house chores.
Because again, it's about helping eachother out.
Don't you mean “they”? Why would the expectation be on just him to plan the honeymoon?
Op, trust me, it’s clear as day she jealous, she wants your BF, she wants to get rid of you.
Also she’s not your “bestie”.
A BFF doesn’t avoid you, a frenemy does who secretly hates you to your face.
She’s playing dumb, she’s manipulating everything on purpose, and she’s has some narcissistic tendencies hence all the drama is about her and not enough attention from men.
This is what Narcissistic women do in their youth and unless you cut her off, she’s going to eventually steam roll you by gaslighting you, cause you to break up with your boyfriend, and then seduce him the same night.
Trust me, I knew a few women like this, one in particular, she eventually got arrested & sent to prison for embezzling $40k from a job but she had a flair for the dramatics when men weren’t paying attention to her, include guys I was friends with she knew and it’s why she tried to get me fired all because I got along with everyone at the job and had freshly gotten out of a two year relationship.
Yeah makes me nervous that he might start accusing her of something she didn't do because he's paranoid about it.
Just because he was unhappy doesn't mean you did something wrong or you need to blame yourself because of it.
Often negative feelings fester during the relationship and become resentment without either party knowing or understanding why.
He did well for himself and he is moving on, you should too.
Take sometime to heal, finish your school and later, when the negative feelings are dealt with, reflect on the relationship in a healthy way, see what both of you did wrong and where you can do better for yourself and for your next relationship.
My thoughts are that he went out that night in hopes of finding other girls to make out with so that you two are now “equal”. I don’t think it was by accident,
You cheating first is what caused this whole thing, so I don’t think you should be upset at the outcome.
you two ended things and then got back together, this was never going to work out and be the same as it was before. There will always be the thought in both of your minds of what happened and it won’t go away. This is what leads to a toxic relationship.
My advice, you two are no longer a good match for each other as you have both cheated and made the other person feel awful, in your case you should have seen it coming (from your bf) and you did and you still felt awful about it.
Things won’t be the same after this, no matter how much you try and forget, it will be apart of your relationship. if you continue to date. I wish you the best of luck
How did he explain/ justify the ring debacle? “I wanted to put a stamp of ownership on you”? And how did he react to being broken up with?
Your husband responded almost perfectly, the savage cultural beliefs have no place in civilized society.
….. maybe your husband could have just broken his nose, his wrist/fingers or something smaller but overall she behaved like an ideal husband. What culture is your husband from?
Basically, this is a clash of civilizations, the moral western world, and the savage primitive world
It’s my first job and it pays really well, i can’t afford to lose it
Lady. We are trying to get you to realize you need therapy. Seriously. You call your ex husband your husband. You shamed him when he was most likely raped (confirmed from your comments!) causing him a shit ton of guilt and trauma.
Then you went nuclear and asked for a divorce when you HAVE A CHILD TOGETHER.
Then you manipulated another man. Or found a stinker honestly I don’t believe a thing in your post. To me it sounds like you came here for validation and are only listening to what you want. That’s called cherry-picking and isn’t the full story.
THEN you start feeling bad FOR YOURSELF because you JUST NOW realized your EXhusband could have been rap**.
You are awful and need therapy, really this isn’t good or normal and is down right sad.
Be as mad as you want, you have to live with yourself.
So, she cries to shut you down, says she thinks you'll leave, but isn't willing to compromise a bit more. So, she values having things exactly the way she likes them over keeping you happy and invested in the relationship. Now, she's not obligated to do sexual things with you, and you can't make her. And, honestly, I wouldn't want someone doing things with me that they were doing out of a sense of obligation and not being into it. But I think she's pretty much just told you it's not going to happen.
Take it from a 44 year old man who has been down this road: It is highly unlikely that she is going to one day change her mind. Which means you either have to accept it and deal with the building resentment, or find someone else who you are more sexually compatible with.
That wouldn't be wrong to ask him. But also you both may just have to accept that you're sexually incompatible.
this!
Maybe she's using you for a free meal, maybe not.
But if I were 2 years into a relationship, and my partner didn't like me enough to want to spend time together outside of a formal date setting, I would be questioning the sustainability of the relationship.
Marriage is 95% just hanging out with the person. It's not a good sign that she either is not comfortable or doesn't enjoy doing that with you.
It certainly sounds like it was very sweet. Knowing that you both discussed and agreed on the future of your relationship really only leads me to one other possible explanation being that whatever emergency she and her roommate have/had is absorbing most of her time, feelings, and thoughts right now. It seriously sucks that you don’t have an answer to the sudden change in her attitude toward the relationship.
Dude you're right. She's wrong here. ?
You don't change the kids name when their dad is in their life. That only makes sense when the dad was never in their life and your new husband wants to adopt them.
I understand that she doesn't want a different name than her kid but this isn't the way.
She just has to deal with it.
Unrelated but my ex used to say “pacific” when he meant “specific” and oh my god three years later my eye twitches when I think about it
“He is very controlling”
It's ok to give up on your husband.
Let it heal .. tell him you need time if he is genuine I think it's worth another shot
Why do you get to put more into savings than she does?
Narcissist. Cut off contact
Please share with him how you feel, I feel like he may just misinterpret your recent relationship developments.